A Dark Figure Music Blog is a collection of Interviews, CD Reviews, and News from the Industrial, electronic, EBM, goth scene - All from the eyes of Michael Kurt of [product].
Interview: Detroit Diesel
Current Release: Terre Humaine Label: Deathwatch Asia / Infacted
"Terre Humaine,” your 2010 album out on Deathwatch Asia and Infacted Records, was released digitally and in both a regular and limited edition – How has the response been to the album?
Really good, much better than what I was expecting for a harsh ebm album. I believe it shows the scene is not dead and people still listen to harsh ebm.
You’re currently working on a new album– Can you give us some insight about the new album and some changes you’ve made to the sound?
I want the new album to sound different from “Terre Humaine” so I’m not just making a “Terre Humaine V2”. People really liked this album but making the same thing again and again would be boring for me as well as for the fans. I guess I will lose half of my fans but also gain some new who will like the fact that the new album sounds different from your usual harsh ebm band.
For me, “Terre Humaine” is a pretty solid Harsh EBM release – What were some of your influences?
Dance music of every genre, but the harsh side comes from classic ebm bands like Hocico, Leaether Strip, Funker Vogt.
I see you are all over Europe (UK, DE, BE) playing some shows – Do you have any plans to expand that or go on a full length tour?
For a new band that plays this kind of music like we do, I don’t think it would be a good idea to make a big tour. It will be an already three-week tour (more dates to come) but adding more dates would make it difficult to deal with our day-jobs, because of course, we don’t live from our music.
Right now it Detroit Diesel is 2 members both live, and in the studio – Do you have any plans to add more people to the live line up, and if so, what would your additions be?
For the new album , I tried to work with different people, to add more professional orchestration, but there was a big fail: just to give you a hint, I’m still waiting for some orchestration tracks and the album is already on the mixing studio.
If you could tour with any band (currently in rotation,) who would it be?
Are you currently using more hardware or software in the studio?
Now I’m using both. In my early years I was a hardware nerd, but 15 000$ later, I realized it’s way faster to use software. So now I use my good old Novation Nova as a main synth and a hardware sampler. I like the simplicity of the software, no wires, no need to record them, and these days they sound really good!
What was the most influential live show you have ever seen?
It’s was Funker vogt in 2003 with the Survivor tour in Montreal, the most amazing show I have ever seen: so much energy from the beginning to the end.
What new releases are you currently listening to?
It’s been such a long time since I bought any new music, but these days I’m listening to Mylene Farmer.
What are your top 5 albums of all time?
It always tough to answer this question, but my all time favorite would certainly be ;
Chrome – Red Exposure Yello –Claro que si Ministry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste The Germs - GI SonicYouth - Confusion Is Sex
What are you most looking forward to in 2012?
The end of days
Thank you for taking the time to talk with me, and I wish you the best luck moving forward in 2012!
XP8 had a great remix on the newest Aesthetic Perfection CD that I really enjoyed, but I had never taken the time to go out and buy any of their CDs. I really wish I had now. 10 years later, XP8 really impresses me for a band that I had never heard. There is a lot of really good elements in the music that directly appeal to me.
I was sent the newest EP “A Decade of Decadence,” this morning, and I haven’t stopped listening to it since. If you have been reading this blog, you should know by now that I like dance, 4 on the fucking floor, industrial and have a soft spot of screamy aggrotech/HarshEBM. What you don’t probably know, is that I love early 2000’s Futurepop. I have a big closet hard on for old VNV Nation and Apoptygma Berzerk because I came from a mainly techno-based background (explains a lot huh?)
XP8 “A Decade of Decadence” is a shining example of cross over industrial. Now, what I mean by that, is that they have a lot of traditional elements housed in Futurepop of the early 2000’s mixed in with scoring aggression. I hear a lot of Apoptygma Berzerk in there in both the music style and the vocal style – and not full on Harmonizer Apop either – more 7 Apop.
There is a lot of jumpy synths and standard beats, and epic choirs and dancing – it’s really a flashback for me. I think it’s really excellently put together. I’ve been looking for a band to replace Apop in my collection and I can say that XP8 has filled the void for me. Songs like “Bullet Hole” and “Decadence” are just trips down that perfect lane when you were first learning to dance by watching everyone move and feel on the dance floor, awkward and shameful you kept with it, and before you knew it you were mouthing the words not giving a shit about everyone else. That’s how XP8 makes me feel – like I want to get out on the dance floor and feel the music extremely loud.
There is something to be said about Futurepop that I like, because there is a lot of bullshit out there, especially right now (VNV Nation you cocks.) I’m pretty snobby about Futurepop specifically because it is really easy to mess up. But songs like “Burning Down” and “Wake up!” transition me nicely from the HarshEBM I am known to push here. “Burning Down” has a lot of darker tones and distorted vocals – a good way to trick your purist friends. What I would call the title track, “Decadence,” takes the album for me though – very emotional in that proud way, but still could work on the dance floor. Really good synth work and layering for this one.
Overall, I would suggest XP8’s “A Decade of Decadence” for anyone who likes early Apoptygma Berzerk, Glis, Cesium137, GASR, and to dance. This would also be one of those bands that you could take your girlfriend to and enjoy yourself too (which is hard to do unless your girlfriend has an affinity for angriness.) I know that I will now be going back into their collection and checking out some previous releases. I am thoroughly impressed.
[[Also, as an afterthought, For your information: this is a collection from a decade of music…in case you didn’t get that.]]
Edwin Alter, of Die Sektor, and I had the chance to talk recently about some remixing and things for the new [product] album/EP and it turns out he’s had a lot of the same experiences I have had with music. I asked him to do this interview based on some questions I had, but also because I know it would be interesting for fans to read about things that they might not have heard about yet, like the new (new) Die Sektor album that is in the process of being mastered now!
Interview: Die Sektor
Current Release: Applied Structure In A Void Label: COP Int, Noitekk, DWA
Die Sektor released Applied Structure In A Void in early 2011, which turned out to be a very different album than I think most people were expecting. Overall I believe it was extremely well received – Did you expect some flack for sort of abandoning the A-typical TerrorEBM sound?
EA: Yes, we did. We had no doubt there would be a fair amount of misunderstanding and those who wouldn’t give the album a chance. However, we were unsure what the broader reaction would be and were very surprised at how well it was received by parts of our audience. There is a sample in the first song on the album of a man playing Russian roulette. I interpret that sample as Die Sektor playing Russian roulette. Fortunately we won.
There were a lot of different influences sighted for Applied Structure; what were some of your influences vocally for the new songs?
EA: We are big fans of various vocalist and their styles but try to go our own way and not use the influences in songs consciously. Going back and listening to the album I can hear certain influences more strongly. Daniel Myer (Haujobb), Ogre (Skinny Puppy), Skold/Sascha (KMFDM), Trent Reznor (NIN), Dismantled and Marilyn Manson. Lyrically Raymond Watts (Pig).
Following the release, you guys hit the road for a little bit and played a number of shows on the southern east coast here in the US – What cities would you most like to play in the future?
EA: The big cities always stand a chance to bring a large crowd. New York, L.A., Chicago. Most cities we have played we would play again. We seem to have the largest fan base in L.A. so we want to make it out West in 2012.
Do you have any plans to take Die Sektor overseas/out of country, and if so – where would you hit first?
EA: We would love to play Mexico City again and we have a good fan base in South America and Mexico so that would be great but nothing planned right now. We had plans to take the show to Europe in 2012 early on but have since changed those plans to a possible West Coast tour instead. One of the problems we have faced going to Europe is that we have a 4 man band. We have received offers and interest but for a band of our scale they want us to have a 2 man band to cut down on cost. We have been working this winter on making a 2 man Die Sektor set with the same quality and impact. So we will see what happens.
If you could tour with one band (in current rotation) who would it be?
EA: Best case would be a good mainstream act along the lines of NIN or MM so that we could get exposed to a larger audience. If I was to go with more industrial related bands then KMFDM or Combichrist. You know the tour would be organized well and you would play to good size crowds. I think it would be most fun to tour with DYM, vProjekt, SML8 and Omen Machine.
There is already talk of a new album – How far along is it, and do you have a title yet or any common themes?
EA: It’s complete. We are getting our tracks ready for mastering. The artwork is almost complete along with all titles. It’s hard to say when it will come out as it takes a few months to master, manufacture and package the album. Then the label has to find a good release slot. We have heard from March to May.
The album is titled “The Final Electro Solution”. As far as theme we describe a combination of a concept album of a mental and physical apocalypse, a sarcastic stab and a nervous breakdown- in stereo. Lol
It has a much darker tone than Applied Structure both in sound and lyric.
Is the new material primarily software or hardware based? And what are your views on the advantages of either one?
EA: The first Die Sektor EP Scraping the Flesh was more hardware based and written almost entirely on a Yamaha Motif. Since that point Die Sektor has been 90% software. There are plenty of occasional Motif appearances and some cameos from the Nord lead. Software is so much easier a simple to write with when you are recording everything into a sequencer like Logic. Die Sektor uses a lot of sampled sounds and we make our own sounds by layering samples and synths so the workflow is easier when working with software. The only real advantage of hardware is if you find an amazing sound that you can’t recreate in the box. You always have the option of writing some midi sequences into your sequencer and then dialing up a sound on your hardware synth if you can’t find a good soft synth sound. That method has been used in the DS studio several times.
I know that Daniel Grant has his own side project going, Chloral One – are there any other projects sprouting off from within the Die Sektor camp?
EA: Scott had one called A Silicon Wasteland that has a few songs floating around on the web. That project morphed into a new project that we will announce after the next album. It has a very mainstream electro/alternative sound with some dubstep elements. Scott also has some solo instrumental stuff floating around under the name sK0tt deadman.
We have been putting together ideas for a new project we are going to work on after this next Die Sektor album. It will be mainly instrumental but will not have any boundaries of genre. No restraints. Not sure of the spelling yet but the project name is Fuck You.
You had mentioned to me in an earlier conversation that Die Sektor had fans popping up in Middle Eastern Countries, which have been under some turmoil recently with protests and all kinds of governments being overthrown. Do you believe that industrial music sort of follows political turmoil or social unrest?
EA: I think music is often found everywhere and always. The tone that it takes can tell you about a time and place, communicating what words alone can’t explain. I would be willing to bet if any industrial music was to come out of those regions that it would be very dark. But I might argue that since they are at least making music, music with a strong beat too, that they are expressing a form of freedom and showing perhaps a flash of optimism.
Are there any clubs that you guys frequent in the Atlanta area that I should check out if ever to stop down south?
EA: There’s pretty much a constant rotation of different club nights I will usually check out a few times.
Every tour has something ridiculous happen, no matter how small it is – Did you have any ridiculousness happen on your last outings?
EA: No doubt there was plenty but most of it too embarrassing to bring up. There was a venue where we had to steal power from another business. One of the guys in one of the other bands knew how to do it. Getting dressed and doing makeup by a cell phone flash light while people keep walking in on you. A lot of stuff like that. Maybe just as much lameness as ridiculousness.
If you could make a music video for any of your songs, which one would you choose?
EA: A new song called “The Final Electro Delusion”. Off the last album I would say if we did one then it should be “Accelerant” probably. For fun I would pick “Dissector”.
Are you playing any video games right now, and if so what system is your preferred system?
EA: I prefer the PS3 system hands down. Right now I am playing Skyrim. It’s really good. I prefer RPG’s usually but I like a few action games like Arkham city and Assassins Creed. Daniel is playing Skyrim too right now.
What new release are you currently listening to? EA: Been on a kick lately looking for rare and obscure late 50’s early 60’s music. As far as new releases for 2011 I probably listened to the new Dismantled and new Haujobb the most. The Korean pop band 2NE1 had some cool stuff in 2011.
What would you say was the most influential album when you think about when you first got into industrial music?
EA: NIN “The Downward Spiral”
Thank you for taking the time for this interview, and we here at A Dark Figure are definitely looking forward to your future endeavors and seeing you on the West Coast sometime in the future!
EA: Thank you. Look forward to doing it again someday!
While skimming through the many pages of new facebook updates for today, I discovered recently released Redacted compilation from Death Watch Asia , a charming collection of B-Sides from your favorite Death Watch Asia releases which includes Die Sektor, Surgyn, Sin DNA, Terrorkode, C-Lekktor, DYM, Shiv-R, Cygnostic, Detroit Diesel, XP8, VProjekt, and Reaxion Guerrilla. It is definitely a look into the tracks that did not make the album, most of which, however, could stand up with the album no problem. There also are some exclusive remixes. and even better: It’s on Bandcamp Name Your Own Price terms.